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Ammo shot to point of aim in 3 inch barrel Kimber Ultra 1911. Has about same recoil as Hornady critical defense. The Critical Defense shoots above point of aim in my gun even being a lighter bullet. Tested shooting bucket of water and it expanded to 7/8 inch. This ammo also feeds as good as fmj hardball. My new carry ammo for this weapon. I use Speer Gold Dot short barrel for my 4 inch and Federal HST in my 5 inch guns.