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So far the ammo has been amazing in my 30-30 170 grain on paper it is the most accurate ammo I have found for my Winchester 94 Trail's End. I can stack 3 Rounds in a dime at 75 yards with this ammo. I have used it on 17 Hogs so far and one deer. None of the animals have gone more than 6 feet after being introduced to this wonderful round. I have read several things were people are having problems online with extractions that has not been the case with me and I believe those are simply due to neglect on the owner's behalf not properly cleaning their rifle. I will recommend this ammo to anybody and everybody. I have had nothing but amazing luck and I have fired well over 600 rounds without an issue in my Winchester 94 Trail's End.