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To me this #71/2 & 7/8 oz are the best clay shooting loads, light on led and speedy enough to heat targets at a distance. Some people prefer 1oz or higher which I tried before but I rather shoot with 7/8 plus they are easy on the shoulder. Also, I had been a client from Ammo to go since I can't remember, and their prices and customer service is top notch. I highly recommend it.