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Very fast bullet coming out of my tracker 627 with 6 1/2 inch barrel. Hits hard on silhouette targets to the point where most that say they can handle 357 magnum don't hold up. Put three holes thru a brand new one designed for bullets up to .44 magnum. Defiantly not able to do what a hollow point can in terms of hammering a "soft" target but penetrates 3 times the distance of them. Defiantly want to try them on bear cause I think they'll do the job perfectly. Great product. Recommended to all my friends in less than a week.