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This round is the same as the old Black Talon. BT got a bad review from the medical and press claiming the round was coated in Teflon and could go through body armor. Not true. In any case Win made some small modifications and made it PDX1. Great round. The pedals do expand nicely and increases cavitation tremendously. In ballistic gel, this round expanded 5X its width, and kept over 90% of weight.